Pet Peeve - Dildos

[Hofrax1]

I don’t know about anyone else here, but whenever I’m watching a GIMP scene and the dildo (or similar “pleasuring” device) makes an appearance, I fast forward or just check out all together. If the thumbnail of a video has a dildo, or the description has “forced to cum against her will” or something to that effect I skip it without a second thought. Nothing takes me out of a GIMP fantasy faster, and I guess I have trouble putting into words why this is so. I mean, the whole point is supposed to be her suffering, not her pleasure. Perhaps it’s also the wasted effort; instead of working that dildo her captor should be concentrating on hurting her further. What about rape scenes, you may be asking yourself. Isn’t the actress getting pleasure as well? Thing is, I have no problem whatsoever with rape scenes, in fact I rather enjoy most of them. I dunno, I guess at the day it’s just the lack of realism involved that completely takes me out of it.

[wulf]

I don’t know about anyone else here, but whenever I’m watching a GIMP scene and the dildo (or similar “pleasuring” device) makes an appearance, I fast forward or just check out all together. If the thumbnail of a video has a dildo, or the description has “forced to cum against her will” or something to that effect I skip it without a second thought. Nothing takes me out of a GIMP fantasy faster, and I guess I have trouble putting into words why this is so. I mean, the whole point is supposed to be her suffering, not her pleasure. Perhaps it’s also the wasted effort; instead of working that dildo her captor should be concentrating on hurting her further. What about rape scenes, you may be asking yourself. Isn’t the actress getting pleasure as well? Thing is, I have no problem whatsoever with rape scenes, in fact I rather enjoy most of them. I dunno, I guess at the day it’s just the lack of realism involved that completely takes me out of it.

I have to agree with you about the dildo thing. It takes the scene out of the torture scenario, and into the porn sector. It's actually the reason I've never bought any of the commercial bdsm videos, even from Insex. In my mind there is no such thing as a 'forced orgasm torture'. Humiliation maybe, but that's all. To me it's more of reward for the model for enduring whatever went on before.
The only dildos that work for me, are the ones with spikes sticking out, oversize, electrified, or heated.

[yyy02]

I don’t know about anyone else here, but whenever I’m watching a GIMP scene and the dildo (or similar “pleasuring” device) makes an appearance, I fast forward or just check out all together...

... there is no such thing as a 'forced orgasm torture'. Humiliation maybe, but that's all. To me it's more of reward for the model for enduring whatever went on before.
The only dildos that work for me, are the ones with spikes sticking out, oversize, electrified, or heated.

I have to laugh and agree with you guys, at least about the similar “pleasuring” device.

But at least the dildo is an intrusion on the GIMPs femininity, a penetration and invasion. At least it can be. Depends on intent I suppose. And if it has spikes, etc., definitely a torture device.

But anything white, or appliance like... I check out like you, Hofrax1.

[MasterKav]

I don’t know about anyone else here, but whenever I’m watching a GIMP scene and the dildo (or similar “pleasuring” device) makes an appearance, I fast forward or just check out all together. If the thumbnail of a video has a dildo, or the description has “forced to cum against her will” or something to that effect I skip it without a second thought. Nothing takes me out of a GIMP fantasy faster, and I guess I have trouble putting into words why this is so. I mean, the whole point is supposed to be her suffering, not her pleasure. Perhaps it’s also the wasted effort; instead of working that dildo her captor should be concentrating on hurting her further. What about rape scenes, you may be asking yourself. Isn’t the actress getting pleasure as well? Thing is, I have no problem whatsoever with rape scenes, in fact I rather enjoy most of them. I dunno, I guess at the day it’s just the lack of realism involved that completely takes me out of it.

I no longer feel alone.

[Fakdanie]

I don’t know about anyone else here, but whenever I’m watching a GIMP scene and the dildo (or similar “pleasuring” device) makes an appearance, I fast forward or just check out all together. If the thumbnail of a video has a dildo, or the description has “forced to cum against her will” or something to that effect I skip it without a second thought. Nothing takes me out of a GIMP fantasy faster, and I guess I have trouble putting into words why this is so. I mean, the whole point is supposed to be her suffering, not her pleasure. Perhaps it’s also the wasted effort; instead of working that dildo her captor should be concentrating on hurting her further. What about rape scenes, you may be asking yourself. Isn’t the actress getting pleasure as well? Thing is, I have no problem whatsoever with rape scenes, in fact I rather enjoy most of them. I dunno, I guess at the day it’s just the lack of realism involved that completely takes me out of it.

I no longer feel alone.

+1

[frog]

I don’t know about anyone else here, but whenever I’m watching a GIMP scene and the dildo (or similar “pleasuring” device) makes an appearance, I fast forward or just check out all together. If the thumbnail of a video has a dildo, or the description has “forced to cum against her will” or something to that effect I skip it without a second thought. Nothing takes me out of a GIMP fantasy faster, and I guess I have trouble putting into words why this is so. I mean, the whole point is supposed to be her suffering, not her pleasure. Perhaps it’s also the wasted effort; instead of working that dildo her captor should be concentrating on hurting her further. What about rape scenes, you may be asking yourself. Isn’t the actress getting pleasure as well? Thing is, I have no problem whatsoever with rape scenes, in fact I rather enjoy most of them. I dunno, I guess at the day it’s just the lack of realism involved that completely takes me out of it.

Yup, I know the feeling, and my reaction is the same. However, it must be said that regular BDSM fare is not meant to represent real interrogation or torture, for example. Besides, there is the question of maintaining the consensual aspect of the thing, hence the usually abominable interviews at the beginning or the end of the clip. The dildos and other devices are good in my book if spiked, as Wulf suggests, or electrified, then we would be in business.

Having said that, I must add that you can drive a GIMP into exhaustion (a nice touch always) by forcing her to orgasm. There is a "decent" clip with Felony in Device Bondage where that happens, in the end she has to be taken down from the device and wrapped in a blanket to recover. Her body spasms and she is bathed in sweat.

[yyy02]

...Having said that, I must add that you can drive a GIMP into exhaustion (a nice touch always) by forcing her to orgasm. There is a "decent" clip with Felony in Device Bondage where that happens, in the end she has to be taken down from the device and wrapped in a blanket to recover. Her body is spasms and she is bathed in sweat.
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That is true.

There is another Kink series where Rain DeGrey is chained naked and spread, then driven to near unconsciousness through repeated forced orgasm by manipulation and application of a Hitachi.

The video itself isn't necessarily stimulating, but interesting, in a clinical way.

[Cisco]

I completely agree about pleasuring the victim with a dildo or vibrator during the rape. However, the exception is watching the victim get ass raped with a large glass dildo. The following vidcap is from "Fatal Encounter" by PKF, one of my all time favorite videos, plus I think the actress victim is REALLY cute:

[cluseb]

It depends on the dildo, were it goes.

And how it's inserted.

[localroger]

Forced pleasure can be torture, but it has to be handled carefully. There is another Rain deGrey clip where she is mounted on a Sybian and tortured by Cyd Black, which makes it very clear it is torture; as she is recovering she gasps "it is as if the orgasms were being ripped out of my body."

But a lot of male doms seem to think that making the sub cum is kind of a justification for the "abuse" they've inflicted, and that the capstone of any session should be "forced" pleasure. Dildos which are obviously made as sex toys -- molded in the shape of penises, made of latex, etc. -- are distractingly not GIMPy tools. But other devices of penetration can be both pleasure-torture and very threatening in appearance; think of the metal (shock electrode!) dildos used by Insex in a lot of scenes. The glass dildo above also falls in this category.

The odd thing is that a lot of subs who sub for their own pleasure don't need to have an orgasm to feel satisfied. "Sometimes the whipping is enough," is a memorable line I read in an interview once. This seems inconceivable to someone who isn't a masochist, but hey, masochism is a hell of a drug.

Dildos can be instruments of violation, pain creation, and even creative bondage. But it needs to be set up so it looks like something other than just masturbating the model to get her rocks off. There has to be more to it, and a lot of producers just don't seem to get that.