Video sharing

[letvor]

I didn't see any topic related to sharing video materials. In the site's disclaimer, I didn't find that this kind of stuff is forbidden so here we are. If I'm mistaken please correct me.

I'm not a streaming person, so to start the subject, I'll share something that is well known, so you can continue adding interesting content and your favorite videos or magnets.

Here you have 82gb of Insex videos.

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[sonnysear]

I do not agree with promoting sharing of video that is owned by a for-profit-business. It is one thing to share video that is no longer claimed by a owner, and we want to keep the legacy going, it is another matter to share Insex video that is owned by Insex's current owner. That is just my 2 cents. Those girls have been tortured and suffered, they need to get paid, those owners invested and took risk, they need to see their return.

[letvor]

I put Insex magnet just because I know that production was ended in 2005. and I didn't add some of the live (ongoing) production just because I wanted to see if this kind of stuff is OK with the community (because I didn't find any rule against it).

For example:
If you add a link from sites like heavyfetish, or fetishpapa the result is the same.

@sonnysear
"Those girls have been tortured and suffered, they need to get paid, those owners invested and took risk, they need to see their return."
I understand that and agree with you but depending on the country you are living in, possibilities to do the right thing can be reduced.

I understand that this is a collision with some views, but this is just a test. I will not add more content until I do not see that this is acceptable.

[yyy02]

I do not agree with promoting sharing of video that is owned by a for-profit-business. It is one thing to share video that is no longer claimed by a owner, and we want to keep the legacy going, it is another matter to share Insex video that is owned by Insex's current owner...

Yes, I agree with sonnysear. "Sharing", piracy really, is not nice, or cool.

An owner of one of the smaller bdsm video companies came up on the Forum and said piracy ran him out of the business and furthermore, snuffed out his creative fires. He was very angry about it, and rightfully so. I think the smaller companies are maybe hit the worst.

Yes, I realize piracy in some amount is inevitable. I just don't think we want the GIMP Forum to be a part of it.

La Reine Margot actively fights piracy, and she could probably tell us how exhausting it is.

My .02.

BTW, I think one form of Insex may have ended in '05, but PD is still very much active and involved with the "new" company, and I believe he has some stake in it.

[letvor]

300 views and 2 comments against something like this. It's enough for me.

Consider this closed. I will not open any similar topic, or post similar content.
If it is by the rules, it'll be nice if Moderator remove the topic.

PS: I removed the link from first post, and I'm hoping nobody will criticize me because this topic.

[stemur]

300 views and 2 comments against something like this. It's enough for me.

Consider this closed. I will not open any similar topic, or post similar content.
If it is by the rules, it'll be nice if Moderator remove the topic.

Leave the topic up! I wasn't sure myself. Great question, well handled letvor.
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[localroger]

For reference, the new owners of Insex are selling the original DVD quality recordings which were never put online, watermarked so that if the new customers put them online they can be blacklisted. There is a paysite selling the original low-resolution classic Insex vids but PD no longer has the rights and I'm not sure what their legal relationship with the product is. As far as I know the original content which might have been downloaded before 2005 is in limbo. The situation is similar if anyone ever finds a HiddenPleasures archive, since there doesn't even seem to be a way to contact whoever might have the rights to their old content. It is definitely bad to divert the potential revenue stream of an active producer, but as with classic gaming there are entire libraries of material that nobody is benefitting from in any way and for which the rights are not available in any legitimate form. Who is hurt if you copy a library of Atari VCS games, after all?

[Edukator]

300 views and 2 comments against something like this. It's enough for me.

Consider this closed. I will not open any similar topic, or post similar content.
If it is by the rules, it'll be nice if Moderator remove the topic.

PS: I removed the link from first post, and I'm hoping nobody will criticize me because this topic.

I understand your frustration and disappointment but don't think this thread should be closed. Nobody here will criticize you for your suggestion and you can also see it as two negative reactions (only) for 800+ views is a very small percentage. Also, I don't think you're breaking any rules here as long as you don't post illegal links.

The fact is that I know of least half a dozen (or more) so-called BDSM "forums" which are nothing else than endless classified download "sharing" links to bdsm videos, mostly illegal. (I won't list them here since they are illegal but anyone interested could find them easily).

What makes THIS forum so interesting and different are the contents and real interactive contributions/discussions from the members and (personnally) I wouldn't like it to become another download links only (fake) forum.
Also, the legal aspect must be considered and would certainly put an extra work load to the site owner/moderator to manage complaints and remove illegal links.

But a separate forum subsection open to members wanting to share private and/or legal material (of which they own all the rights) with other members would be a nice addition. And video producers are of course free to post links to their own material, which they already do occasionally in the producer's corner section.

[Gray8059]

I am a hobby photographer (not GIMP material) and get to work with a fair number of models and content creators. They have my utmost respect; they are professionals and deserve to be compensated for their work. Making sure that models and producers see a return on the work they put in is the only way for us to insure a supply of new material for us to enjoy.
I think the bar for sharing content should be pretty high -- if you like a video and want to share it, do a thorough job of figuring out if that video is legally for sale somewhere. If so, only share a link to where we can buy that content ourselves. If you are very sure that the content is orphaned and not commercially available, sharing it would be ok IMHO.
Maybe we should have an "orphaned content" thread...