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Do not send me messages like this.
Look,

We’re getting really pissed off your comments.
If you don’t like our videos just don’t buy them!
This was another custom request and we’re struggling so much in producing more videos cause we are in Ukraine and here is a total shit understand?
We are living with the constant fear of being bombed from one moment to another. We’re doing our best with what we have and with the clients we have!

Please stop commenting bad about everything we do, if you don’t like don’t buy.

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Electric city productions team


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We’re getting really pissed off your comments.
So? We're getting pissed off with your trailers that show 1 thing, while the film delivers something different.

If you don't like the critiscm, then make the trailer represent the film.

You obviously have a big market for films that are in this style: Woman wobbling/shaking and making a slight moaning sound, and then spitting out some white foam. Yet the trailers always show some good screaming stuff, and good reactions to pain. The trailers always represent about 1% of the actual film. The main film is not like the trailer. So we wonder why you do it. If your market is for the shaking woman without screams, why market it as a screamer? If you are trying to market it as a screamer movie, where the woman acts like she is in pain, then you are misleading people.

The fact that you refuse to make trailers that accurately represent the films is what is making us angry.

For instance, we buy very few BorderlandBound softcore films. We love the actual bondage scenes, but we know that they are only a tiny part of the film, and the rest is very bad acting and silly storyline (They admit this. This is the market the cater to). And their trailers are 10 seconds long and accurately reflect the film. You know what you are getting... And that is why we rarely buy them, they are not to our tastes. But sometimes the trailer shows a good position or good model. e.g.:

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/64171 ... uxe-cut-hd


If you don’t like our videos just don’t buy them!
How do we know if we like them unless we buy them?
You make good trailers. We think that the trailer is what the film is like. It is not.
You are admitting that the trailer does not reflect the film.

This was another custom request
State that it is a custom request in the film description. Put the original request in the film descripion. That is what most other producers do. THAT WAY people know what to expect.

BUT, it doesn't matter if it was a custom film or not, the trailer does not represent what the film is about.


we’re struggling so much in producing more videos cause we are in Ukraine and here is a total shit understand?
I can't even beging to imagine what is happening. My sister's husband was originally from Pryluky/Pryluka. He has lost contact with his aunt/uncle and cousins and niece. He says he hopes that they are already dead, rather than with the Russians. I have only met them once about 10 years ago, and that feeling is bad enough, and I am many miles away, so, no I cannot know what it actually feels like to try and carry on and live through it. The closest I can come to that is 15 years ago, leaving a lesbian-BDSM club by myself, stupid, and being followed by 10 very large black men. I'm a five foot tall very petite woman, and this was 3am. I have no idea if they were following me, or just walking the same way as me and cat-calling. But I have never been so relieved to find a taxi in my life. Everytime I think of that I imagine being gangraped by 10 guys in an ally in London. No, it is not that same, but that is the closest think I can think of to what the civilians are going through as the Russians destroy their homes.



We’re doing our best with what we have and with the clients we have!
As I've said every time, we love the look and feel of the films. Especially the 'old VHS' qality ones. I used to be in films like that, and buy films like that, so I love that look and feel. Just make the trailer show what the film is about.

Please stop commenting bad about everything we do, if you don’t like don’t buy.
Again, the trailers make us think the films about the women feeling the pain and screaming, that is why we buy them. The reality is that they are usually about the woman just moaning and not really acting like it hurts.

You are actually critizing me for believing your trailers.


You obviously know your audience better than I do. You keep getting custom requests. Why not make the trailer about the real film? Wouldn't you sell more?

The facts are:
1) You say it's a "full 25 minute video" (Exact quote). It isn't it is 21:17. And only 17 minuts of that is the actual film.
2) The trailer shows 2 excelent screaming scenes, which are bloody good. It gives the impression that this is what the film is about. It isn't. Those 5 seconds, are the only bits like it in the film.
3) Why not show all the other bits that were actually requested? The moaning, the gun to the head etc?

4) If you make a trailer that shows about 9 seconds of actual footage, and 5 seconds of that is suspended screaming, OF COURSE WE WILL THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT THE FILM IS ABOUT.


I used to be in the 'business'. Custom movies started at around $7000, because most of it was real (and this was long before Onlyfans, Nicheclips etc etc). I appreciate the difficulty in completing a custom request and trying to market it, if it is a niche thing. e.g. how do you market a lesbian-bdsm film where I dilate the anus of a girl, throw up in her giant gaping asshole, and make her "twin sister" drink it out of her asshole? It covers so many niches. We didn't have trailers for the VHS/DVD, but the screencaps covered it, and so did the description.


Again, we buy the films because the trailers make us think we will like the films. You are complaining that we believe your trailers and are dissapointed when they are not true. If we are not your target audience, why do you market them at us, instead of marketing them at your target audience? Think how many more films you would sell, and how idiots like us wouldn't buy them as they are not made for us?


Anyway, stop sending me agressive private messages.
Trust me, You'll like it... Eventually.
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I cannot imagine what you guys in ECP are going through in Ukraine. And I cannot commend you enough for toughing it out and still putting out product. Wow, just wow. :shock:

But at the same time, I understand what Floor13 is saying, as I have also purchased product that is nothing like what is represented in the promotional package.

Just a thought; here's the way PKF Studios markets their clips. (1) a gif showing the highlights of the video, plus (2) a photosheet laying out the video in stills, from beginning to end.

PKF has gotten a lot of my money over the years because I know exactly what I'm getting. And these days, they also put up a "Preview" video that, among other things, gives you an idea of the actress' performance.

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I've also noticed that the trailers at electric city don't have much to do with the movie you buy. Then you feel betrayed.

But what really pisses me off: Electric City posts promotion of new movies in up to 5 different places here in the GIMP forum!
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