Sexual Torture - torturing the girls by real brutal and painful sex

[theroughman]

"I think a lot of members misunderstood me."

I think on the contrary that everyone here has understood you perfectly well and have provided appropriate answers.

" ...it shouldn't matter for the girls which way of heavy pain the have to suffer for the money, following their contract..."

Maybe it does matter... you should ask those first concerned: the models ! I'd guess there are some form of pains more bearable both physically AND psychologically than others. You don't want acting (or faking) but sexual intercourse (penetration) painful to the point of being a REAL torture may cause irreversible internal body damages (unlike external heavy body whipping) to the girls and there are no "contracts" to prevent this and/or legally protect the producers if something goes wrong.

Personally I find the whole concept of "paid for pain contract" morally disturbing and subject to debate , but I wouldn' start this topic here (by standard morals this whole site should be closed then !) If I'm not wrong I remember that some years ago the producers of E.P had some serious troubles with the local authorities and were even arrested for a short time following a girl's complaint.
In the case of a complaint and legal action these "paid for pain contracts" have no legal force or validity, and the producers are fully aware of this.

I think you might find some videos corresponding to your requests (REAL non simulated painful sexual intercourse) but it will be mostly by "unplanned accident" in a (uncut) X-rated scene but it's very doubtful there are any specialized studios producing this kind of material, for the reasons I already mentioned above.

Its pain... paid pain.

No doubt about that, but it doesn't make it legal (or acceptable).

I wonder what guys like you are looking for in this forum. Huuhh...PC yes. I agree. But why do you play the lawyer for the girls? You like to decide how much pain and what kind of pain they like to take for the money? Come on... And sorry, but you sound that you haven't fucked much girls. SURE you can hurt them for hours without any damage on their private parts!! If you hit the cervix its very painful but you can do this again and again without and damage, but a lot of pain for the girl.

[localroger]

theroughman pain exists to let us know that our bodies are being damaged. Those of us who play with pain have to be very careful about how these signals are being generated. It is not natural for vaginal sex to hurt, and the usual reason it does is that there isn't enough lubrication. The pain is a signal that the tissues lining the vagina are being damaged. (If you are the one doing this with your penis you probably aren't doing it any favors either, but skin is tougher than the vaginal lining.) So for practical reasons, any deliberately staged "rough sex" porn will involve acting. It is simply not true that you can "hurt them for hours without any damage." It is very tricky to cause pain without doing damage, because reporting damage is why pain exists. Most of us here understand that we must satisfy our fantasies with facsimiles, because doing the real thing would be evil. But this is one case where the greater world has decided that even the facsimile is unacceptable and has erected barriers to distributing such images. I have issues with this censorship, but I also have to live in a world where it exists whether I believe it is morally or legally right for other people to enforce such limits on me. Other people fear us because of our fantasies, because they fear that we might not be content with the fantasy. And it is not an irrational fear because some people have given themselves the permission to go out of control. So it is dangerous for us to act as if we do not care about societal limits. If those around us come to believe we do not care about limits, we will find one day that they don't care about ours.

[wulf]

@localroger

Very well put, and I agree with every word.

[yyy02]

@localroger

Very well put, and I agree with every word.

Also agree. Sorry, but it is just the reality of commercial porn.

Now imo the degree of consensuality may differ a little between performers, as in seasoned performers may allow a little more than newcomers, but it is all consensual.

And no girl wants to be actually brutalized.

[Laura]

@localroger, Thank you for expressing in such an elequent manner how many of us feel. Laura

[BobDarkroom]

@localroger

Very well put, and I agree with every word.

I fully agree!

[MasterKav]

She knows that she deserves this punishment fuck

[petelobo]

Wow. First time I've seen this kind of reaction to a request. If you get set up for deep web searching, perhaps you'll find, as suggested previously, more what you are looking for.

[theroughman]

theroughman pain exists to let us know that our bodies are being damaged. Those of us who play with pain have to be very careful about how these signals are being generated. It is not natural for vaginal sex to hurt, and the usual reason it does is that there isn't enough lubrication. The pain is a signal that the tissues lining the vagina are being damaged. (If you are the one doing this with your penis you probably aren't doing it any favors either, but skin is tougher than the vaginal lining.) So for practical reasons, any deliberately staged "rough sex" porn will involve acting. It is simply not true that you can "hurt them for hours without any damage." It is very tricky to cause pain without doing damage, because reporting damage is why pain exists. Most of us here understand that we must satisfy our fantasies with facsimiles, because doing the real thing would be evil. But this is one case where the greater world has decided that even the facsimile is unacceptable and has erected barriers to distributing such images. I have issues with this censorship, but I also have to live in a world where it exists whether I believe it is morally or legally right for other people to enforce such limits on me. Other people fear us because of our fantasies, because they fear that we might not be content with the fantasy. And it is not an irrational fear because some people have given themselves the permission to go out of control. So it is dangerous for us to act as if we do not care about societal limits. If those around us come to believe we do not care about limits, we will find one day that they don't care about ours.

Sorry, but i do not agree. I don't know how many girls you have fucked and don't know the length of your cock... But:
The pain i mean doesn't come (means should not come in my scenario) from not enough lubrication. It comes from deep inside the pussy. From the cervix, when you hit it with your (long) cock. There are a lot of nerves at the cervix. And they generate the pain if you hit them repeatedly with enough force. And that's possible without any damage and... not for hours, but for a typical time of a hardcore film (let's say 45min pain fuck by 5 or 6 long cocks in the legs on shoulders position. Just see my examples at the beginning of the thread, especially "Faith" and "Alexa".)

[theroughman]

Wow. First time I've seen this kind of reaction to a request. If you get set up for deep web searching, perhaps you'll find, as suggested previously, more what you are looking for.

Yes, i know. But it's hard to find. My suggestion was simply to search together... With everybody who shares the same interest...