The natural role of women

[yyy02]

... 2. Legalize polygamy in the name Liberty and to minimize the number of unwed women.

#2 is simply not going to work. Men may fantasize about polygamy, but in reality the math doesn’t work out. You’re going to have a lot of frustrated men who can’t get wives, which will contribute to societal collapse. Even with a 1:1 ratio, women are naturally hypergamous, meaning they would instinctually rather share an alpha male with other women than have a beta male all to themselves....

This is fascinating.

Do you mean women in the present tense, or women in general from the very early days?"

Because some people say that "submissive" women (like in the Gor novels) are women in their "natural" state. While I surmise that women of past history accepted what seemed like a "natural" role for them and men did the same. Whereas in todays machine and tool-aided age, the distinction between the roles have become somewhat blurred as pure physical strength becomes less important?
Evolution is mental as well as physical? Times change as well?
Am I making sense?

Thoughts?

[bakerboy]

#2 is simply not going to work. Men may fantasize about polygamy, but in reality the math doesn’t work out. You’re going to have a lot of frustrated men who can’t get wives, which will contribute to societal collapse. Even with a 1:1 ratio, women are naturally hypergamous, meaning they would instinctually rather share an alpha male with other women than have a beta male all to themselves. Monogamy was invented by men to keep this dangerous tendency of women in check, and to ensure that men would cooperate with each other to build and protect a working civilization. The only possible solution in which polygamy could exist would be to somehow manipulate births (mandatory in-vitro perhaps?) so that a lot more females are born than males. As a wise man once said, the battle of the sexes is the only battle which is won by having the other side outnumber you.

You are wrong on polygamy... successful Alpha males will have several wives and procreate freely, they will even buy a few slave/concubines at slave auction.....like here:.. and have more children with them....



It is Beta males, cucks and the other "losers" will end up without a wife. That is fine since the society does not need procreation from them...

[MasterKav]

Role of inferior women defined......

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[hornythumb]

#2 is simply not going to work. Men may fantasize about polygamy, but in reality the math doesn’t work out. You’re going to have a lot of frustrated men who can’t get wives, which will contribute to societal collapse. Even with a 1:1 ratio, women are naturally hypergamous, meaning they would instinctually rather share an alpha male with other women than have a beta male all to themselves. Monogamy was invented by men to keep this dangerous tendency of women in check, and to ensure that men would cooperate with each other to build and protect a working civilization. The only possible solution in which polygamy could exist would be to somehow manipulate births (mandatory in-vitro perhaps?) so that a lot more females are born than males. As a wise man once said, the battle of the sexes is the only battle which is won by having the other side outnumber you.

You are wrong on polygamy... successful Alpha males will have several wives and procreate freely, they will even buy a few slave/concubines at slave auction.....like here:.. and have more children with them....



It is Beta males, cucks and the other "losers" will end up without a wife. That is fine since the society does not need procreation from them...

Actually, in many species those left out males manage to sneak in and fuck the horny females. The top/dog/alpha/A+ male cannot be on guard 24/7. HE.HE

[Laura]

Just go to any zoo populated with the higher apes and watch the action. The alpha male with the female "harem" and the young male challengers hanging around watching and waiting for a chance to steal one for himself. Are humans any different?
Muslims can have as many as five wives if they can afford them. Some sects of Mormons allow for several wives . I would like to meet the man with the sexual stamina to keep five wives satisfied? A woman can easily have several orgasms during sex activity but I have never met a man who can climax more than once during sex so it would make more sense for a woman to be polygamous and have several male partners.

[wulf]

... 2. Legalize polygamy in the name Liberty and to minimize the number of unwed women.

#2 is simply not going to work. Men may fantasize about polygamy, but in reality the math doesn’t work out. You’re going to have a lot of frustrated men who can’t get wives, which will contribute to societal collapse. Even with a 1:1 ratio, women are naturally hypergamous, meaning they would instinctually rather share an alpha male with other women than have a beta male all to themselves....

This is fascinating.

Do you mean women in the present tense, or women in general from the very early days?"

Because some people say that "submissive" women (like in the Gor novels) are women in their "natural" state. While I surmise that women of past history accepted what seemed like a "natural" role for them and men did the same. Whereas in todays machine and tool-aided age, the distinction between the roles have become somewhat blurred as pure physical strength becomes less important?
Evolution is mental as well as physical? Times change as well?
Am I making sense?

Thoughts?

I agree with that. I don't think it's possible to define a 'natural state' for women in today's world, and perhaps not even for men either. Outside of procreation, everything else is up to the individual person as to what role they play in life. Unfortunately there are places, and religions in the world, that forbid those choices for females, and I suspect most everyone here would condemn that as they should. You cannot force human beings to 'devolve' with an antiquated belief system that is incapatible with the what is considered to be basic human rights.
And yes mental evolution is just as important and the physical part. The misery suffered by women in certain parts of the world are what you get when that doesn't happen.

Sorry, rant off.

I only put women in one category..... beautiful creatures.

[bakerboy]

Laura

Muslims can have as many as five wives if they can afford them.

... and unlimited number of willing or unwilling concubines (slaves)

Laura

I would like to meet the man with the sexual stamina to keep five wives satisfied?

You will not need to. It is NOT about being satisfied. It is only about being impregnated. If you need to be satisfied, have some of the other wives ( or likely a slave) go down on you It will be good if you fake it, this would avoid being whipped for complaining to your husband and master

Laura

it would make more sense for a woman to be polygamous and have several male partners.

This was ONLY necessitated in one place in the Himalayas where lack of arable land had to be shared in order to avoid starvation. Again, sorry nothing to do with satisfying a woman.

FYI: of course we are still talking about a fantasy. I am not a misogynist in real life

[hornythumb]

Just go to any zoo populated with the higher apes and watch the action. The alpha male with the female "harem" and the young male challengers hanging around watching and waiting for a chance to steal one for himself. Are humans any different?
Muslims can have as many as five wives if they can afford them. Some sects of Mormons allow for several wives . I would like to meet the man with the sexual stamina to keep five wives satisfied? A woman can easily have several orgasms during sex activity but I have never met a man who can climax more than once during sex so it would make more sense for a woman to be polygamous and have several male partners.

Most guys here have at least half a dozen gimp-wives in our harems, and we can keep em all occupied.

[hornythumb]

Just go to any zoo populated with the higher apes and watch the action. The alpha male with the female "harem" and the young male challengers hanging around watching and waiting for a chance to steal one for himself. Are humans any different?
Muslims can have as many as five wives if they can afford them. Some sects of Mormons allow for several wives . I would like to meet the man with the sexual stamina to keep five wives satisfied? A woman can easily have several orgasms during sex activity but I have never met a man who can climax more than once during sex so it would make more sense for a woman to be polygamous and have several male partners.

Most guys here have at least half a dozen gimp-wives in our harems, and we can keep em all occupied.

And no tolerance for polyglamorous gimps!

[hornythumb]

#2 is simply not going to work. Men may fantasize about polygamy, but in reality the math doesn’t work out. You’re going to have a lot of frustrated men who can’t get wives, which will contribute to societal collapse. Even with a 1:1 ratio, women are naturally hypergamous, meaning they would instinctually rather share an alpha male with other women than have a beta male all to themselves....

This is fascinating.

Do you mean women in the present tense, or women in general from the very early days?"

Because some people say that "submissive" women (like in the Gor novels) are women in their "natural" state. While I surmise that women of past history accepted what seemed like a "natural" role for them and men did the same. Whereas in todays machine and tool-aided age, the distinction between the roles have become somewhat blurred as pure physical strength becomes less important?
Evolution is mental as well as physical? Times change as well?
Am I making sense?

Thoughts?

I agree with that. I don't think it's possible to define a 'natural state' for women in today's world, and perhaps not even for men either. Outside of procreation, everything else is up to the individual person as to what role they play in life. Unfortunately there are places, and religions in the world, that forbid those choices for females, and I suspect most everyone here would condemn that as they should. You cannot force human beings to 'devolve' with an antiquated belief system that is incapatible with the what is considered to be basic human rights.
And yes mental evolution is just as important and the physical part. The misery suffered by women in certain parts of the world are what you get when that doesn't happen.

Sorry, rant off.

I only put women in one category..... beautiful creatures.

I prefer...... nice targets